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Yea, my Stude was last registered in Texas- the late '60s is what I was told. No plates on it when I got it, no name of the last registered owner, no paperwork whatsoever. It was parked on a ranch in the same spot for over 25yrs when my uncle drug it home.

I really don't know where to even begin, but I'd like to have a title because I will do something with the truck THIS YEAR. I'll get it going or pass it on to the next guy- but either way a legit title will make things easier.
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Not sure on Texas, but a bill of sale may work. I did that on a car (67 VW) from Georgia. They do not use titles on cars that old.
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How to title a hot rod


http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w..._hot_rod#Texas

I found this on the crankshaft collation, part of the hotrod bulletin board where I am a member.

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Texas Bonded Title Info I may miss a step or 2 but the process goes something like this if it hasn't been titled in the last 16 years,, which is how far back the state's records are kept.
You'll need a bill of sale and the following forms from the state. VTR-275 Request for Texas Motor Vehicle Information

You'll need a bill of sale, and will probably need the following forms: VTR-275 Request for Texas Motor Vehicle Information VTR-301 Request for Pencil Tracing of Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) VTR-34-F Certified Copy of Title Fact Sheet VTR-130-SOF Statement of Fact VTR-131 Request to Issue Negotiable Certificate of Title Without Registration (Title Only)
VTR-275, Fill this one out and mail it in with the fee of $2.30. This starts the title search with the state, if it hasn't been titled in the last 16 years you will receive a rejection letter.
In the meantime you have to take the vehicle to 2 auto dealers for a written appraisal of it's value. At this time you'll need to complete VTR-301 Be sure to have your bill of sale available. Call any dealership near your locale; the appraisal in most cases is a free service to the public.
Accompanying the rejection letter from the Texas Dept. of Transportation is an Insurance company list where you will go and purchase a surety bond. The fee is 1.5% of the value of the vehicle.
Fill out form 130, Statement of Fact, then along with all the other paperwork gathered from the above sequence, take it to your county tax office, and in turn they provide you with the bonded title. The bonded title is for 3 years; at the end of the 3rd year you can exchange the bonded title for a permanent one.
Texas Vehicle Title and Registration FAQs And Popular Related Links Texas Vehicle Title and Registration Forms: http://www.dot.state.tx.us/vtr/vtrreginfo.htm?pg=form1 Lawrence Auto Title: Commercial Bonded Title Business http://www.lawrenceautotitle.com/continue.htm

You can take the easy way out: buy a title. Ads in some rodding magazines advertise titles for sale. These titles are from cars that have been scrapped. You can get just about any year and make you want. I bought a 1923 Ford title for my bucket. Take it to the DMV and turn it in and get a Texas title in your name, just like you would if you had bought any car with an out-of-state title. You will have to declare how much you paid for the "car" you bought and pay the sales tax. I paid $125 for the old title and so that's what I said. I wouldn't venture the fact that all you bought was a title. I honestly don't know if this is exactly legal, but it is a common practice.
And if your car is 25 or more years old, you can get an "antique" license plate. These are good for 5 years, cost only $50, and your car doesn't have to have safety inspections. Per the law, your antique car is only to be driven to/from a show, or to have work done. But I've never been stopped in 15 years, and you could always say you were going for an oil change or alignment, etc.
The last option you have is if your vehicle has NO vin at all. This means no data plate, no frame number, or no original engine number. From what I have been told by the DPS up to 1954 all vehicles were registered with the motor number. GM vehicles did not have frame numbers until 1949, Ford had frames numbers from 1932. This also covers assembled vehicles using a manufactured prefabricated body. For vehicles with no vin number first go to your local DMV where you normally get your plates. Ask for a Form VTR-68-A Application for assigned or reassigned number. Ask them which law enforcement you need to call to have them come by and inspect the vehicle. The local Anti-Auto Theft Task Force is the normal ones that come out. They will inspect the vehicle and ask you a few simple questions, show them the bill of sale with the PO's name and address. Make sure they check the right boxes. The ones you want checked say, Vehicle assembled from parts for which no ID number was ever affixed to body. And the other says, Unable to determine the true manufacturers number. If they check the box that says, Number assigned by manufacturer for ID purposes has been removed, changed or obliterated, you will have to take a form letter to a judge and prove ownership of the vehicle. Now once you have that done take the paperwork and your vehicle to a regional DMV/DOT office. They may tell you that you don't have to take the vehicle but take it anyway, if there are any problems they can call and have another inspector come over and take care of them on the spot. Once there you'll have to fill out a Form VTR-61 Rebuilt Affidavit. On that you will explain all the modifications done on the vehicle. Make sure you have the name and address of your suppliers, ie engine, body, frame, trans etc, with bills of sale. Then they will assign a vin number to the vehicle. Cost $2.00. On your way home stop by a public scale and get a weight slip, you'll need it later. Now to get your title and plates take the Form VTR-61,a pencil tracing of the motor number, the Form VTR-68-N Notice of Assigned Number(from the regional office), copy of Form 68-A, photo of vehicle, Form VTR-470 green slip from safety inspection station, weight slip, original bill of sale and proof of insurance to your local DMV office and they will then issue you your title and plates after you pay the taxes and fees.
Go online, print out the application for antique plates and fill it out. Go to the DMV



I guess your uncle could give you a bill of sale. You may need to ask at a DPS office, since you can not do some of that.


http://www.lawrenceautotitle.com/continue.htm
Here is a bonded title company... does not seem bad. Service fee, $100 bond $15 per $1000 value.
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Wow- thats really, really weird.

I had just found that exact page & copied the same exact thing- then clicked over here to paste it in this thread.

Great minds think alike?
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I have gotten a title company to do me a bonded title.
Company Fee: $125.00
Bond: $150.00
Transfer Fee: $ 33.00
Taxes: $180.00
Total: $488.00

I didnt get tags or plates because I was reselling the car.
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